I really enjoy your vlogs alot, you are very personable and I feel that you are someone I can relate to.
Yes, I did have a Hearing Ear Dog myself at one time. And like you, I could not see the need to take the dog everywhere I went. At times, she (the dog) was a pain in the posterior. What could she do for me at a restaurant? At the bank? A deaf person's need for a guide dog is completely different from the blind person's need. This issue should be addressed.
Around home a dog (any dog!) can be helpful for strange sounds. My hearing dog used to come upstairs and notify me when my boyfriend got into my refridgerator! I had/have flashing lights for the doorbell, telephone, etc. and while it was helpful to know when the stove buzzer was going off, it was not absolutely necessary. Like most deafies I "cook with my nose" and if it is ready to be removed from the oven, I can smell it!
I, myself feel that a hearing ear dog might be wonderful for a late-deafened person who feels absolutely lost. For us "independent deafies", no, the dog eventually becomes a hindrance. I sent my dog back and they found her another home with a late deafened person and I was so happy for both of them.
Diane, I dont know to answer what right or wrong but some place like apts or house projecting that all landlords want to know if a hearing dog have a certified because they dont allow any pets. I tried to pull landland s mind out that he allowed me to have a dog with me he asked me if it have a certified. i dont say anything so i looked for other place to let dog with me
It depends on the person's need for a service dog. Many deaf people are used being deaf and don't need alert dogs. However, others aren't used to being deaf, so their needs may be different. For these people, yes, taking dogs everywhere is appropriate for them. Often in these groups are late-deafened people. It is very different for them because they are so used to being alerted by different sounds.
All that is required for the service dog is that they must alert you in the public and that they must be well-trained. According to Dept of Justice, one doesn't need certificate for the dog. So many people in the public are clueless about the ADA laws and are unaware that they violate ADA when they demand the user of a service dog to provide certification. They will get in trouble with Dept of Justice for refusing to provide access to a person with service dog.
Yet one cannot use a pet dog as a service dog. That's an abuse of the system and can be prosecuted for fraud if Dept of Justice investigates a complaint.
I agree that dogs are best at home, to offer me clues of inside/outside noises. I don't have dogs anymore, but in the past, they were helpful to let me know of noises and sounds in advance. Taking a dog around in business, commmerical, and educational sites, it's over the line.
I have a hearing service dog but no certificate. I paid a trainer to train my dog and ME !! I learned to train my dog for when I need to train my dog on my own. I had the trainer for a short time because it was so very costly and I decided not to have a hearing service certificate for my dog. I thought that my dog would be best to stay at home and wouldn’t want to stress him going someplace. I was very happy with him alerting me whenever he heard the sound. I have a friend who had a certified hearing service dog. One day, we went to shopping with the dog. I dropped my keys at the parking lot and her dog dragged her to the point where I dropped my keys! Also, I dropped a small piece of paper and her dog alerted me! I think it’s nice to take a hearing service dog to someplace but not at all the time. If I take my certified service dog to Petsmart or vet, and I need to stop by a grocery store, I could take my dog with me to the store. I think that’s the advantage of having a service dog. My dog is officially retired from being a service dog, and has the sign of aging in which he couldn’t hear any sound anymore. I’ve installed flashing light for doorbell and phone rings, and allow my dog enjoys his retirement!
I have a short story to write about. One evening, my dog pawed my leg and lead me to the kitchen, but I didn't see anything wrong so I investigated that area. It turned out that I forgot to turn the fan above the stove off. Nice to have a dog that alerted me to some areas that no signals would alert (such as flashing light for phone ring and doorbell, etc...)
I understand your sensative about going any place . IF you may have a certified licence with a hearing dog then Any DEAF/HOH have a right to go like a shopping or resturant or arena or bus or city hall with a certified dog and you would be big smile and proud to be a DEAF woth a dog!
I have two mutts and I couldn't imagine them as hearing dogs. i don't like to see them as working dogs. They are my companions.
i have "almost" negative reaction when a deaf person brings a hearing dog. I always feel sorry for the dog. I often feel this deaf person who has a hearing dog, is unable to be independent. I know I should not judge but thats how i see.
Also, I always wonder if the dog is actually certified to help a deaf person or the person "make an excuse" so she/he can bring the dog anywhere. (wondering....)
Doglover, maybe you need to learn more about hearing dogs and dog training, then you wouldn't have such a negative reaction. Of course YOUR dogs can’t be hearing dogs. Very few dogs can be. But my mutt IS. He is a working dog and needs a lot of attention, exercise, and challenge. That’s his personality, and it nearly killed him. Why? His owner didn’t have the time, energy, or interest to train or take care of his needs.
Dogs need to be with their pack. That’s dog psychology, not human opinion. That’s why I wanted a dog I could train for public work and manners. I educated and trained him and he became a great hearing dog, natural talent, he knows sign language better than my old dog ever did. He has great eyes and is always curious. His job and life is a great match for him.
Every day we pass pet dogs that have limited life experience, who stay all day in yards and panic and get excited at the sight of one person walking by, who have no training whatsoever, and who can't be taken anywhere without getting upset or excited, who get angry at the mailman, etc. I think that is so sad.
I AM born deaf and I was born more deaf than 90% of all “deaf people”. I am now stone deaf. I can’t hear traffic, ambulance, anything. I’ve been hit by a car and nearly killed by 6 other crazy drivers. I trust my eyes but I don’t trust other people’s skills. I also got mugged by a man hiding behind a car as I walked by.
When my dog started alerting me to sounds, I realized I missed so much I was in shock. My eyes were opened for the first time to knowing things behind doors, walls, around corners for the first time in my life EVER. For people who have mild or moderate hearing loss that may be nothing.
For me it is a really weird experience. I never could use hearing aids or cochlear implants and I never could figure out where sounds were coming from, ever.
Yes there are pluses and negatives to having a hearing dog. For me, there is no contest. I love hearing dog, it’s a plus in most environments I can imagine. I do know my needs are different from other people’s needs.
Wheelchairs have many negatives. Nobody wants to be in a wheelchair; they can’t do everything legs can. But for many people a wheelchair becomes better independence than their own legs are, even if they can walk, because of the pain and fatigue involved with even a short distance.
We can’t look and judge. We don’t know their bodies.
For the same reason, there are many pros and cons to learning and depending on sign language. I am honest here. But we are proud of our beautiful language and for good reason.
And so I am also proud of my hearing dog, who gets a life that few dogs could have, when he could so easily have died before he grew up because of a stupid, selfish owner.
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I really enjoy your vlogs alot, you are very personable and I feel that you are someone I can relate to.
Yes, I did have a Hearing Ear Dog myself at one time. And like you, I could not see the need to take the dog everywhere I went. At times, she (the dog) was a pain in the posterior. What could she do for me at a restaurant? At the bank? A deaf person's need for a guide dog is completely different from the blind person's need. This issue should be addressed.
Around home a dog (any dog!) can be helpful for strange sounds. My hearing dog used to come upstairs and notify me when my boyfriend got into my refridgerator! I had/have flashing lights for the doorbell, telephone, etc. and while it was helpful to know when the stove buzzer was going off, it was not absolutely necessary. Like most deafies I "cook with my nose" and if it is ready to be removed from the oven, I can smell it!
I, myself feel that a hearing ear dog might be wonderful for a late-deafened person who feels absolutely lost. For us "independent deafies", no, the dog eventually becomes a hindrance. I sent my dog back and they found her another home with a late deafened person and I was so happy for both of them.
Here is my response... Dog goes everywhere with Deaf owners???
Diane, I dont know to answer what right or wrong but some place like apts or house projecting that all landlords want to know if a hearing dog have a certified because they dont allow any pets. I tried to pull landland s mind out that he allowed me to have a dog with me he asked me if it have a certified. i dont say anything so i looked for other place to let dog with me
It depends on the person's need for a service dog. Many deaf people are used being deaf and don't need alert dogs. However, others aren't used to being deaf, so their needs may be different. For these people, yes, taking dogs everywhere is appropriate for them. Often in these groups are late-deafened people. It is very different for them because they are so used to being alerted by different sounds.
All that is required for the service dog is that they must alert you in the public and that they must be well-trained. According to Dept of Justice, one doesn't need certificate for the dog. So many people in the public are clueless about the ADA laws and are unaware that they violate ADA when they demand the user of a service dog to provide certification. They will get in trouble with Dept of Justice for refusing to provide access to a person with service dog.
Yet one cannot use a pet dog as a service dog. That's an abuse of the system and can be prosecuted for fraud if Dept of Justice investigates a complaint.
I agree that dogs are best at home, to offer me clues of inside/outside noises. I don't have dogs anymore, but in the past, they were helpful to let me know of noises and sounds in advance. Taking a dog around in business, commmerical, and educational sites, it's over the line.
I have a hearing service dog but no certificate. I paid a trainer to train my dog and ME !! I learned to train my dog for when I need to train my dog on my own. I had the trainer for a short time because it was so very costly and I decided not to have a hearing service certificate for my dog. I thought that my dog would be best to stay at home and wouldn’t want to stress him going someplace. I was very happy with him alerting me whenever he heard the sound. I have a friend who had a certified hearing service dog. One day, we went to shopping with the dog. I dropped my keys at the parking lot and her dog dragged her to the point where I dropped my keys! Also, I dropped a small piece of paper and her dog alerted me! I think it’s nice to take a hearing service dog to someplace but not at all the time. If I take my certified service dog to Petsmart or vet, and I need to stop by a grocery store, I could take my dog with me to the store. I think that’s the advantage of having a service dog. My dog is officially retired from being a service dog, and has the sign of aging in which he couldn’t hear any sound anymore. I’ve installed flashing light for doorbell and phone rings, and allow my dog enjoys his retirement!
HI again,
I have a short story to write about. One evening, my dog pawed my leg and lead me to the kitchen, but I didn't see anything wrong so I investigated that area. It turned out that I forgot to turn the fan above the stove off. Nice to have a dog that alerted me to some areas that no signals would alert (such as flashing light for phone ring and doorbell, etc...)
I understand your sensative about going any place . IF you may have a certified licence with a hearing dog then Any DEAF/HOH have a right to go like a shopping or resturant or arena or bus or city hall with a certified dog and you would be big smile and proud to be a DEAF woth a dog!
You can take your service dog anywhere without a certificate, too, if the service dog is well trained and can alert you in the public.
Check out ADA policy on service dogs if you want more information
The hearing dog was trained to inform its owner when the keys was dropped, that's the reason.
Also, your certified hearing service dog would alert you when your name is called.
I have two mutts and I couldn't imagine them as hearing dogs. i don't like to see them as working dogs. They are my companions.
i have "almost" negative reaction when a deaf person brings a hearing dog. I always feel sorry for the dog. I often feel this deaf person who has a hearing dog, is unable to be independent. I know I should not judge but thats how i see.
Also, I always wonder if the dog is actually certified to help a deaf person or the person "make an excuse" so she/he can bring the dog anywhere. (wondering....)
Doglover
Doglover, maybe you need to learn more about hearing dogs and dog training, then you wouldn't have such a negative reaction. Of course YOUR dogs can’t be hearing dogs. Very few dogs can be. But my mutt IS. He is a working dog and needs a lot of attention, exercise, and challenge. That’s his personality, and it nearly killed him. Why? His owner didn’t have the time, energy, or interest to train or take care of his needs.
Dogs need to be with their pack. That’s dog psychology, not human opinion. That’s why I wanted a dog I could train for public work and manners. I educated and trained him and he became a great hearing dog, natural talent, he knows sign language better than my old dog ever did. He has great eyes and is always curious. His job and life is a great match for him.
Every day we pass pet dogs that have limited life experience, who stay all day in yards and panic and get excited at the sight of one person walking by, who have no training whatsoever, and who can't be taken anywhere without getting upset or excited, who get angry at the mailman, etc. I think that is so sad.
I AM born deaf and I was born more deaf than 90% of all “deaf people”. I am now stone deaf. I can’t hear traffic, ambulance, anything. I’ve been hit by a car and nearly killed by 6 other crazy drivers. I trust my eyes but I don’t trust other people’s skills. I also got mugged by a man hiding behind a car as I walked by.
When my dog started alerting me to sounds, I realized I missed so much I was in shock. My eyes were opened for the first time to knowing things behind doors, walls, around corners for the first time in my life EVER. For people who have mild or moderate hearing loss that may be nothing.
For me it is a really weird experience. I never could use hearing aids or cochlear implants and I never could figure out where sounds were coming from, ever.
Yes there are pluses and negatives to having a hearing dog. For me, there is no contest. I love hearing dog, it’s a plus in most environments I can imagine. I do know my needs are different from other people’s needs.
Wheelchairs have many negatives. Nobody wants to be in a wheelchair; they can’t do everything legs can. But for many people a wheelchair becomes better independence than their own legs are, even if they can walk, because of the pain and fatigue involved with even a short distance.
We can’t look and judge. We don’t know their bodies.
For the same reason, there are many pros and cons to learning and depending on sign language. I am honest here. But we are proud of our beautiful language and for good reason.
And so I am also proud of my hearing dog, who gets a life that few dogs could have, when he could so easily have died before he grew up because of a stupid, selfish owner.
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